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I merely describe my experience. I'm quite happy in 1GB on a headless LAMP server, but with a gui (xcfe) on a laptop and tasks open across the Internet I feel less constrained if I have 16GB. Here's a snapshot of my present state - https://pastebin.com/1cgP36rC - and that's 10GB of core memory in use by anyone's estimation. What I do on a smaller machine is close tasks, restart tasks, and tolerate occasional slow moments. I prefer not to. I can see Mint Ulyana, Brave and Firefox, 70 tabs open, calibre, an assortment of libreoffice jobs, gftp, hexchat, a few terminals. Nothing extreme. Firefox has several thousand bookmarks and the history may go back a couple of months. The only extensions are the standards: NoScript and UBlock. I stand by my advice, though at £400-500 I can see some might prefer to pare it down. On the other hand it's good for ten years, in my estimation, a pound a week, and I've kept machines in use that long before. It's less money than an Internet connection. On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 17:23, comrade meowski <mr.meowski@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 29/09/2020 18:32, John PNZ wrote: > > I've tried 4GB machines with linux, with Windows 10, with android, and > > if you go beyond a dozen tabs or a day's browsing you slow to a crawl. > > It's not a processor issue, it's a memory issue. > > Counterpoint: it's not a memory issue, it's a user issue. > > > If anyone here has had a better experience on 4GB I'd be interested in a > > description. > > Literally everyone does - I've had and still have thousands of users > with 4Gb (or less) RAM machines doing actual work all day long. > > If a random user rocks up and tells me in all seriousness that their > casual daily web browsing habits with just a few tabs open is too much > for their standard computer - which everyone else is doing much more > than that on without the same problems - then I'd start trying to figure > out what that user is doing so differently. Because it's definitely you > I'm afraid. > > Please note I don't doubt you for a second, that would seem a bit > unfair! I'd take you at face value but there must be something that > you're doing very differently to everyone else. Any ideas? Are you > streaming a lot of content or keeping multiple in-browser games or video > tabs open? 600 page PDFs in the built-in reader? > > Maybe something else - what browsers are causing this? Do you install > specific plugins or extensions or do anything else non-standard? The > answer is in your habits or working methods because all things being > equal and taking the opportunity to dust off an old meme: > > 4194304K OUGHT TO BE ENOUGH FOR ANYBODY > > > -- > The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG > https://mailman.dcglug.org.uk/listinfo/list > FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG https://mailman.dcglug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq