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On 27/01/18 20:00, Simon Avery wrote: > Worth taking a look at refurbished machines. This ALL DAY LONG. Not just refurbed, but refurbed business laptops at that. Think ex-lease Lenovos or Dells. Buy wisely and you can pick up i5 or i7 systems with 8Gb RAM and SSDs that still have a few months of factory return to base or even next day warranty on them. I spec and buy a LOT of these systems. And I really mean a LOT, like I've bought more than twenty for clients already this year. Ask away if you have questions. Lenovo x240s/x250s are my current sweet spot but they're ultra portables with tiny screens so probably not what you're looking for. Dell 7440s are nice too and can be snapped up for under Â300 but still only have 14" screens - i5/i7 though with 8Gb RAM, SSDs and native 1080. You can always add big cheap screens - they support 3 external monitors through docks (and you can lock away the laptops safely at night). DO NOT BUY NON-ELITE HPs FOR ANY REASON. DO NOT BUY NON-BUSINESS CLASS DELLS. DO NOT BUY NON-BUSINESS SPEC SECOND HAND LAPTOPS AT ALL!* DO NOT BUY CHROMEBOOKS** OR NEW SUB Â300 LAPTOPS EVER FOR ANY REASON This goes double for anything you want to run Linux on. Triple for anything you want to run Linux *and* Windows on. Cheers *except Apples, but you're probably not buying them at all **chromebooks are fine, but only for Â20 off a mate -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG https://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq