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Re: [LUG] Is this another back door for those in power to analyse our data

 

On 23 Feb 2015, at 21:15, Eion MacDonald <eionmac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> 
> On 23/02/2015 20:46, Jay Bennie wrote:
>> 
>> I just found this while looking at insurance, is anyone up on the details about 
>> what data is being made "portable"? 
>> 
>> http://www.gocompare.com/money/midata/
>> 
>> The general essence of this initiative is to "share" via a centralised government 
>> backed data broker, data to help companies actively match your banking behaviour 
>> with the best products. ... and will share information such as who provides your 
>> mobile phone and utilities. 
>> 
>> Its being presented as a solution to the non competitive markets. 
>> 
>> but seriously this is a !wtf #Featureof1984 as authorised by Teresa May 
>> 
>> and if anything it means the competitors will have enough info to know exactly 
>> how much to price at to get the most out of you. 
>> 
>> J 
>> 
> 
> More intrusive than you think.
> a)banks and insurers can already access you credit information, e.g.
> list of all routine payments and one off payments if seller asked for a
> credit score before accepting you and any delayed or defaulted payment.

That i don't mind, it prevents fraud, and the result is pass fail or a generic score 
to the retailer. Whats being proposed is sharing the actual detail, i.e how much you 
currently pay.  IMO thats too far. 

> 
> b) This data puts your even small purchases into a public accessible
> format. "portable" for all who sign up to using it.
> Combined with credit card purchases and future EU (tail in car) only
> small purchase anonymity is in cash or barter.
> I don't think you can buy a new car for cash though!
> All purchase or cash movements over GBP10,000 are compulsory reportable,
> with some banks/insurers/sellers reporting from GBP5,000.
> 

Anonymity isn;t the concern, its the granularity and detail of what is being exposed 
to 3rd parties, I really don't care if Big brother has my info, Its the fact they 
are commercialising selling it to 3rd parties that I object to. 
The irony that is being championed by a founder of the Open data Foundation (who 
also advises gov and hangs out with the founder of the internet) is not lost on me.

> c) Main use will be to rack up price to anyone with defaults.
> "Its being presented as a solution to the non competitive markets"
> it is also a major use in competitive markets
> 

It will be used to control price (not in the way intended), if this was done behind 
closed doors it would be a cartel. 


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