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Thanks Gordon for the reply. I will look into all of this. I didn't realise it was so cheap! On 28 Aug 2014, at 11:47, Gordon Henderson <gordon+lug@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, 27 Aug 2014, Richard Brown wrote: > >> I am a bit frustrated by Diaspora and the lack of a data centre in Cornwall. I >> would love to set up and run my own Diaspora network. > > Lack of a data centre is not an issue. There are many DCs around the country. The > key thing is that the further you are from London, the more it costs to backhaul > data to London (and lets face it, London is still the 'hub') - but on the other > side, the further you are from London, the less it costs to rent/buy the space. > Running costs for electricity would be about the same unless you can come up with > some innovative way to keep it cool... (The DC I use is in Sheffield) > > Then there's running Diaspora - if you want it to actually work, you have to make > people come to it - "if you build it, they will come" DOES NOT WORK here. The > reason is that there are dozens of others, all (now) with big money behind them - > that money coming from selling advertising and customer data - so you'll make your > own pretty little corner, but all you'll achieve is what would effectively become > your own private little corner... (which is what you appear to want - so that's > good - for you) > > We tried this with the LUG - and it failed. I setup a wiki, some other > collaborative thing which I've now forgotten (not Diaspora, but something similar) > and a Wordpress. About 4 people bothered to make the effort - once - then it more > or less died a death. (This was all under the opendevon.org.uk name) > > If you want a server then *BUY* a VPS in a datacentre. Cheapest right now is > probably OVC in France - http://www.ovh.co.uk/ > >> I have a whole load of family members who would not use Facebook if I had a >> Diaspora network set up. I have a Diaspora account but am unable to use it >> because no one else uses Diaspora. When I suggest using Diaspora on a different >> server most family members ask why is that different to Facebook. I explain about >> data ownership etc but they point out that there data is now on someone else's >> server and the problem could persist. >> >> I wish I could install and run my own server. > > A £2.03 a month will get you a virtual server that's more than capable, so stop > bleating on about needing a server/local DC/etc. and go and do it! > > Also - use portfast.co.uk for DNS - another tenner or so a year for a domain. > Really, it's so bloody cheap these days to have your own server and domain name, > etc. there simply isn't any excuse not to! Even a dedicated server from OVH starts > at £30 a month. > > (I use the cheapest of cheap VPSs at OVH to host some DNS and it's not let me down > in the past 2-3 years and they've also bumped up the spec. too - I now have a > dual-core AMD 2.8GHz VPS with 2GB of RAM and 26G of disk space - of which I use a > tiny fraction and it's costing me something like £25 a year) > > Want something closer to home? http://bytemark.co.uk/ starts at £15 a month (+VAT) > for a VPS, £69 + VAT for a dedicated. > > But if you really want to host your own server - then expect to pay costs starting > from about £85 a month. (+VAT) Not many DC's like you hosting your own server > these days though - it's not that cost effective. > > And if you do host at home (perfectly feasible even with a 1Mb/sec upload speed > for something very low volume), then factor in the cost of electricity and a UPS > to keep it going. > > Gordon-- > The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG > http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list > FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq Kind regards Richard Brown 07834 770027 Community Organiser http://bodmincommunity.co.uk/ -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq