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On 10/12/13 18:20, George Parker wrote: > That Mr Meowski, I thought, he often seems to know what he's talking > about, and I need to upgrade to Mint 16 so I'll give it a go. What can > go wrong if I follow the instructions, eh? > > Run through number 1 did nothing at all, but that was because I'd > forgotten that my install was Mint 14. Round 1 to Mr Meowski. > > I thought I'd better upgrade one version at a time so for run through > number 2 I adjusted the sed lines to Nadia/olivia and quantal/raring and > off we went. The upgrade took about 1.5 hours, down to broadband speed > I suppose, and went off without a hitch. Everything seems to be working. > Round 2 to Mr Meowski. > > Run through number 3 was the final upgrade to Mint 16. Again about 1.5 > hours and again seemed to work OK. But when I rebooted my Mate desktop > setup had disappeared and it booted into a temporary Gnome setup. But it > did boot to a desktop and it was trivial to re-install Mate and > everything else seems to be working OK. So, I have to also concede round > 3 to Mr Meowski. A resounding win for the Bad Apple. > > I think this could safely go into the LUG how-to's with maybe a note on > what to put in the sed lines. (It also intrigued me enough to go and > find out what the sed lines did). > > Thank you Mr Meowski. > > George > Glad to help! With so many Mint users on this list and such a weird bit of default advice on how to manage updates on their own website, I figured that at least someone would get a bit of use from my urging people to do what I always do: ignore it, and just do what you want instead. Going from 14 > 15 > 16 all in what sounds like half an afternoon of work is pretty impressive to be fair, and just goes to show that dist-upgrading between versions isn't a big deal at all. Good work George. But it's interesting that you too had the weird Mate > Gnome reset after upgrading from 15 > 16: I had the same thing but Cinnamon > Gnome when I did it, but just put it down to my own weird setup (my Mint VM has KDE/Gnome3/Mate/Cinnamon/Awesome and probably some other DEs all installed at once - I like to flip between them for testing). Like you, I had no problems with some heavy handed application of sudo and was back to normal in no time. However, as it happened to us both, it may be wise to add a note to the less experienced at this point: DON'T PANIC IF YOUR GRAPHICAL LOGIN CHANGES AFTER MINT 15 > 16 In my case, apt-get had whacked my default greeter (MDM) and replaced it with GDM, which defaulted to logging me into Gnome - that bit is actually expected behaviour. Now, you can either ignore this and next time you login, make sure to choose Cinnamon, Mate or whatever your normal DE is from the login screen: it will remember your choice and log you in to that environment by default from now on OR you can fix it. In my case, I ran "sudo apt-get install mdm" which asked me during installation which I wanted to run from then on as the default greeter: choosing MDM instead of GDM put everything back to normal. For anyone else following my "guide", if you can really call it that, please do mention if you bump into this same issue (or any others for that matter) and we'll modify the guide as appropriate. Regards -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq