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 On 12/05/2013 16:12, Grant Phillips-Sewell wrote:
On 11 May 2013 17:52, Martijn Grooten <sweetwatergeek@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:sweetwatergeek@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    What others have said, already: fantastic post.

    One thing:

    > 10: Mouse scrolls the wrong damn way by default (seriously). Easily
    > changeable, but it's another example of Cupertino's "we tell you
    how to
    > do it" attitude.

    Apparently this is because that's how scrolling works on touch
    screens: you move your finger downwards and you scroll up - and vice
    versa.

    Now I use a touch screen (phone) and also a desktop PC, and somehow
    this never confuses me. Actually, it took me a while before I realised
    that, indeed, the movements happen in different directions - so
    natural both movements have become to me. Are there really people who
    find this confusing?

    Martijn.


I guess it comes down to history.

Things-on-screen (let's call them documents) have been longer than the screen can display for a very long time. Scroll-bars at the sides of the application "window" seem to be the most agreed-upon method of both conveying this concept to people and providing a mechanism for moving through the document. The vertical scroll wheels on mice typically follow the same convention - you want to move your position "down", you pull the bar down and so you should pull the wheel "down" (if the mouse were up against the screen... as it's flat on the desk, this action equates to pulling the wheel towards you).

With touchscreens, perhaps because it is more directly "tactile" than using a mouse, you are not so much moving your position in the document as you are moving the document itself, so you are "pushing" it up.

Apple are trying to encourage this latter concept on all their devices. I have not found many people that are immediately comfortable with the change. The distancing of your digits from the document seems to go against Apple's ideology.

Grant (not top-posting for a change).
It works with same way if you click-hold-drag a document with a mouse - most commonly an image. Basically you push the visible portion off screen to expose the invisible part, in the same way as with medieval scrolls, you rolled them forward to move down the document. I think computer mice might be the only function when that is reversed.

Julian

(also not top-posting :))

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