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Re: [LUG] OT: Spy malware infecting Iranian networks is engineering marvel to behold

 

On 30/05/12 09:56, Martijn Grooten wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Simon Waters wrote:
Not saying it isn't well engineered, just that there isn't enough
evidence in the reports.

I doubt there will ever be. Every expert 'knows' Stuxnet was written
by the American and/or the Israeli government. No one can prove that
though. I think Flame will be a similar story.

Mostly it tells you that current anti-malware practice isn't terribly
good, in that it went undetected for so long.

That's a good point and one I've seen people from within the
anti-malware industry make, but it's not an entirely fair criticism:
it only shows that if you've got enough resources you can defeat/evade
security software. 100% security doesn't exist so it's a matter of
putting the threshold so high that it's not worth the attackers'
effort. If the army of a major country have a reason to attack you,
it's damn hard to put the threshold that high.

Nothing I've seen discusses how it gets the data it steals back,
presumably this to is a pluggable module (would make sense), so possibly
it varies with installation. Nor how it is so targeted if it spreads in
virus like fashion. I suspect those two are rather sensitive bits of
information for those infected.

People expect full analysis of what Flame is capable of doing may take
months, perhaps even years. I've seen reports that mention a command
and control server so I presume that's how data is stolen.

It is a worm rather than a virus in that it spreads itself but doesn't
infect existing files. Targeted worms aren't new. A worm could be
targeted at a specific organisation and then spread itself inside the
organisation's network.

Plenty of well funded organisations are interested in the Iranian oil
ministry and middle Eastern politics, they are call oil companies or
investment companies that trade in the oil markets. Indeed these days a
lot of them have more money than many national governments, or at least
less debt.

I doubt many, if any, companies have the resources that the US army
has. They are also pretty good at keeping things secret.

Martijn.


Thanks for your comments guys. I found them interesting and a little bit scary! lol. Perhaps we will see an increasing number of similar attacks in the future.....

Meanwhile, I am carving my secrets into tablets of stone and locking them in my shed. Doh! Shouldnt of said that. lol

Cheers roly :-)

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