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I would disagree with the implication that "BSD" ({Net,Open,Free}BSD) is more free than GNU but I'll leave it at that. tom wrote: > You can get the computer RMS uses: > http://freedomincluded.com/ > ah.. from :http://www.lemote.com/en/about/contact/ Tekmote Electronics sells them too, that's where I got mine. They are in the Netherlands so you won't get/risk import duty so I think it works out cheaper but you'd have to check. The downside is that it is not preinstalled with gNewSense, you will have to install it yourself, and currently the gNewSense installer doesn't work for it. :( And the preinstalled OS is old and uncleanly set up (this seems to be the standard for companies shipping netbooks with GNU/Linux!). Lemote have an installer for Debian Squeeze which is at least newer. Tekmote Electronics http://www.tekmote.nl/ Lemote YeeLoong 8101B 10" mini-laptop Pure White-- High-end GNU Linux mini laptop http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61504599/Products/CFL-003-B It doesn't come with a UK plug (neither with the US one I expect) so you'll need to get an adapter. The physical keyboard is US layout but if you touch type and reconfigure the keyboard to UK you won't notice this too much. I replaced the HD with an SSD. I could go on more, feel free to email about it. If you are into software freedom then I recommend getting one. I really like the idea of "Freedom Included". We need something like that in the UK. http://freedomincluded.com/category/coming-soon/ Regards, Mike. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq