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I don't know it this is actually patented http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-11803763 but Cleggy and Compo et all have been doing that for years. Tom te tom te tom -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq