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Well, that's MHO if they've got Siemens in to do all their ICT now... http://www.devon.gov.uk/index/councildemocracy/deliveringservices/directorates_and_departments/chiefexecutives/communication/newscentre/press-releases/press-release.htm?id=3361 Or http://url.drogon.net/i if that wraps for you. Reading that article suggest it's already in-place too. Gordon -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq