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I run KDE and have always liked it pre KDE 4. I have always used Kmail with no complaints, tried others (evolution, thunderbird, outlook (sorry, slipped in)) but always gone back to Kmail. In Kmail 1.9.9 your mails are displayed in one long list which can be sorted by column, sender, date etc. by a click on the header. In Kmail 1.12.4/KDE 4.3.4 the mails are sorted by date into groups such as Today, Monday, Sunday, Last Week, October etc. Each group seems to be treated as a separate entity so that it sorts by date, sender etc only within each group. For instance, I can't click on sender and get all the mails from Fred Bloggs listed back to the year dot. I can't find a way to switch off this layout, or is there a way? I've looked at moving to Evolution or Sylpheed or Thunderbird but this brings another problem. My mailboxes are configured as maildir (each mail a separate file) and can be either that or mbox (one big file, or enormous in my case with over 2000 mails). The 3 alternatives all seem to use mbox which I'm reluctant to go to. Or can they be changed to maildir? I don't really like KDE 4 either. It now seems to get in the way rather than help the flow of work, or is it just me. Maybe time for a change all round, but I don't like Gnome either (sigh). George -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq