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On 27/07/2010 15:16, Grant Sewell wrote:
Yes that in a nutshell is my point, although I will concede that wherever the slow part of the network is will affect both ends. BTW I'm on a 20b Virgin cable too and experience the same problems as Rob. The difference is though that if I or Rob connect to someone with a decent amount of bandwidth we will get the top speed, whereas someone with an 'up to 8Mb' ADSL package actually getting 2Mb never will.On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:07:51 +0100 Rob Beard wrote:On 27/07/10 14:09, Julian Hall wrote:On 27/07/2010 13:14, James Andrews wrote: <snip>So the Internet has no "speed" that anyone can measure in bpsNo, but the point is - whatever your method of measuring speed - that if your initial connection is slow you cannot tx/rx data fast regardless of any external conditions. A mythical condition could exist where every external connection is 1000Gb, but it your connection is 1Gb (1000 times slower) that's all you're going to get, and that is where the UK system is failing consumers. More like BroadBLAND Britain than Broadband. Julian  Or however you choose to measure itOr on the other hand, your connection could be reasonably quick and the other end could be slow, or have a bottleneck. For instance I'm on Virgin 20Mbit broadband, I regularly get the full 20Mbit/sec from some hosts, but other hosts I can be limited to something like 300Kbit/sec. I only tend to find this with smaller sites, possibly hosted on the other side of the globe. The big sites such as Microsoft (yes I know!) I get the full 20Mbit. So it's not all down to the connection at the premises, it's also the connections to servers wherever they may be. RobI think the point, though, is that it doesn't matter what the connection speed of the other side is - if your connection is pitifully inadequate you'll never have a chance of attaining even their speeds. If I took the attitude of "it doesn't matter what connection speed I have as the other end, or any intermediate point, might not be up to the job" then I'd still have 56k dialup. Grant.
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