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Oops - dropped my very cheap mobile phone from Orange - guess it is a good job it was very cheap. So recommendations of getting one that will sync nicely with Linux welcomed. Mostly I need a phone. Sync of contacts sensibly would be nice to have, or simply simple back-up of contacts from mobile into a sensible format quick and simple enough I will actually do it and restore it on the next phone. Sensible reminders good. Sync of calendar not important currently. Other than that the next step of interest would be ssh terminal client, which I'm guessing takes us to a different realm of phone? Web browsing - well I've always thought it sucks on mobile phones, but it would be handy if it had an ssh terminal client built in, since then I could check web side of ssh work other than with lynx. Email - nice to have (would need sensible IMAP client). I have a camera so don't really need that. I have a music player but rarely get the time to listen, so that isn't important. Am a sucker for games, especially if I can get (or port) a decent game of chess to the phone, so probably best if it doesn't have that for my productivity. Cost - always important. For the phone and contact sync these are very cheap these days. Obviously would pay more for better, but prefer PAYG, as I don't phone enough people to justify contract. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html