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Sigh, definitely end of a long week. Each time I figure out one problem, another pops up and it's probably equally trivial to fix. When the iPlayer air program is running, I click the "click here to start downloading" and it launches firefox to the /iplayer site, but I have yet to discover a download link!! /me confused. Thanks for everyone's help and advice this eve' Jon -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html