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OK, the curser on my laptop running Vista just disapears. I spend ages trying to fix it cos there was some mp3s I didn't want to loose but loose the will to try any more and nip down to the newsagents, pick up a copy of Linux Format with a shiny new copy of the latest Ubuntu. Install it with absolute ease. Actually the easiest instillation I've ever done in fact and it's running a traet, looks really nice. That was gonna be it, just a nice little story about how much I like the new Ubuntu but I need a bit of advise on installing Java for Firefox. THe instructions are; 1. Install Java Runtime Environment. 2. Make a symbolic link to libjavaplugin_oji.so in your Mozilla Plugins directory. Use the copy located in the plugin/i386/ns7 directory of JRE 5.0 or later, or plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32 if you are using JRE 1.4.2. ....so, OK, fair enough. Except I don't know how to make a symbolic link. I don't expect it's too difficult. Should I google it? Or is it more complex that that? CHeers, JOn DAvey -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html