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On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 07:11:09PM +0000, Julian Hall wrote: > Simon Robert wrote: > > mmm, well I think we'd better add a veil to this slip... And OK even if > > they did used to be the house of sax batternburg (or whatever) they's > > now been totally kipplinged and is exceedingly good monarchs! > > > Saxe-Coburg and Gotha.. changed to Windsor after WWI with all the > anti-German sentiment around. Albert was Saxe-Coburg and Gotha; Victoria was Hanover on her father's side and Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld on her mother's. Then of course you have a century of the House of Hanover before that (even more German than Victoria; the first two could barely speak English -- an improvement on the current lot, at least, who talk far too much), and then over a century of Scots before that (with a Dutch bloke for good measure). If people must insist on being patriotic, they may wish to find a better standard for "Englishness" than the royal family. We had Europeans in charge long before the EU. ;) -- Benjamin M. A'Lee || mail: bma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx web: http://subvert.org.uk/~bma/ || gpg: 0xBB6D2FA0 "Perhaps Debian is concerned more about technical excellence rather than ease of use by breaking software. In the former we may excel. in the latter we have to concede the field to Microsoft. Guess where I want to go today?" -- Manoj Srivastava -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html