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> By "proper" driver, I'm guessing you mean a proprietary nVidia one. Yes but this problem just recently started to happen, so unless I need to update this driver, or something else has changed, Its working properly. > > Can you run the application in question from the command-line and send > any output to a text file? So: > $ wine blah.exe > blah.exe.output > > Grant. > Ok i can't do what you just said there, as i havent' got the code thing yet to open the codeweavers program, However I get the same issue with the Linux version openarena, i run it and it restarts x putting me back to the login screen from a console window openarena > output.txt fails. so I tried from a tty1 (normal full screen console) I just get blank files So its not just codeweavers software that is causing this, something seems to be trying to access graphics file somewhere that is then causing X to restart. I have NO windows games or software installed under that at present, so I can't redirect the out put any where, and have no way to copy / paste the erros accuratly into a file (sorry if there is a way to do it, I don't know how, if there is a log file some where I don't I think the problem seeems to be with SDL, but am unsure, Output MUST be directed somewhere to a log file, I just don't really know where to look I have looked in /etc/X11 as that has some log files, but nothing seems to show up, Paul -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html