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Re: [LUG] This might be old but...

 

Henry Bremridge wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:31:16AM +0100, Simon Williams wrote:
>> Neil Stone wrote:
>>> http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/08/10/15/2222209.shtml
>>>
>>> "The Communications Data Bill (2008) will lead to the creation of a
>>> single, centralized database containing records of all e-mails sent,
>>> websites visited and mobile phones used by UK citizens. In a
>>> carnivore-on-steroids programme, as all vestiges of communication
>>> privacy are stripped away, The BBC reports that Home Secretary Jacqui
>>> Smith says this is a 'necessity.'"
>> How exactly are they planning to do this? People encrypt mail. So they 
>> don't just need every ISP, they need all mail providers- and not just 
>> major mail providers like gmail, etc, they need all private mail servers 
>> as well. Even *I* have a mail server.
>>
> 1/ Most people do not send mail using secure smtp / secure imap, so even if the 
> content is encrypted the sender and recipient addresses are not
> 
> Similarly most non- voip phone calls are made to a landline. (I have only seen one 
> retail provider so far offering pgpfone with voip: www.tivi.com.)
> 
> And finally most people browse the web from either their home or office
> 
> 2/ This is what the Bill creates: a database of who communicates with who. Not 
> what they are saying. ie if you send a lot of emails to a particular person who is 
> then deemed to be a terrorist then you will be of interest to the anti-terrorist 
> police as well. At that point then presumably the police will then look more 
> carefully at you.
> 
> 3/ Problems: 
> - a terrorist who is otherwise normal but plans and communicates with other 
> terrorists on a secure link
> - a terrorist group who buys access to a bot-net and communicates that way.
> 
> ie this Bill will weed out the stupid wannabe terrorists but not touch the more 
> dangerous ones
> 
> 

Presumably the stupid terrorists will be caught/blow themselves up while 
the dangerous
ones are too smart to be caught.

Whatever you think of the government it isn't stupid. So what is the 
Bill really for?

Keith


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