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On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 08:07:49AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > Honestly, I am *so* glad that Debian got this sorted at the first > opportunity. Yes, it was unpopular, it was regrettable, it could be > reversed overnight if Mozilla ever see sense but it WAS the right thing > to do and IMNSHO it IS the right thing for Ubuntu to do. >>From the looks of things, Mozilla are making a habit of making an agreement ("of course you can use our trademarks!") and then adding additional restrictions later on ("only if you don't make any modifications/only if you display this EULA"). If Mozilla had made all the restrictions clear at the time of the original agreement with Debian, I suspect Debian would have replaced it pretty promptly, rather than carrying on with "Debian Firefox" and so on for so long; likewise with Ubuntu, it sounds like the EULA wasn't mentioned at all when the original trademark agreement was made, and is only becoming an issue now, just before a release (when it's probably too late to do much about it). The problem is, though, that there's very little alternative; Epiphany adds dependencies on stacks of Gnome crap without actually adding much in the way of features (and dropping other features); Konqueror is much the same, but with KDE and QT instead. I think I'll just stick to lynx for the time being... -- Benjamin M. A'Lee || mail: bma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx web: http://subvert.org.uk/~bma/ || gpg: 0xBB6D2FA0 -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html