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It is not only those at the top who are to blame - in fact I am not in the slightest convinced by the argument that the head of an IT department needs to know how to write a program. It is those within the IT department who are cocking up - not just at CCC but fairly universally. I think a large part of the problem is that now every man and his dog can get an operational suite of programs running against a relational database using a high level programming language, every man and his dog now thinks they are computer professionals and many organisations also have this view. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Potts" <tompotts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [LUG] CCC website hacked > On Wednesday 11 June 2008 23:41, Kevin Tunison wrote: > ... >> mind many individuals at that level do NOT necessarily come from >>an IT >> background, but more likely a business background solely. The IT >> industry >> must be the only department within business that >>has a head whose >> background doesn't necessarily match their expertise. > I've found over the years that there are two types of IT people - > microsoft > trained and (more) useful engineers that think and play outside the MS > box. > Take sql server - the main reason behind web hacks. Why did they go to > such > lengths to make a security model* that didn't work? It probably comes back > to > their one and only attempt at 'merging' their software into a coherent > unit. > However they chose to ensure their DS was NOT easily compatible with LDAP. > LDAP does anything an organisation needs. So DS must be a subset of > useful! > *which explains Microsoft's understanding of 'model' - something smaller > and > much less functional than the real thing. > As for having a head that doesn't match their expertise - thats British > (and > American) management in general. There seems to be the logical > progression. > A managers job is to delegate. If he is to delegate then he requires no > understanding of the underlying problems or mechanisms. If he is a manager > he > must make decisions that are completely at odds with any underlying logic. > How else can someone get a £3 million bonus for royally screwing 90% of > their > job up ? > > Tom te tom te tom > > > -- > The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG > http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list > FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html > -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html