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http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/10/08/adobe-confesses-pdf-backdoor reinventing the wheel reinvents punctures, failed breaks, skidding etc etc unless microsoft do it - they take a square wheel and turn it into a triangle - one less bump! Tom te tom te tom -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html