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On the subject of power consumption as well - and this may have come up in the other thread - you may be interested in the new "powertop" program. It runs like top, but instead of displaying memory/processor usage, it displays and ranks programs by their power usage. Not only that but it makes recommendations of processes you could kill to save significant amounts of power. http://www.linuxpowertop.org/ Jon -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html