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Hi, If you want to remove the proprietary dependencies in you project have a look at Processing http://processing.org/ Processing is an open source programming language and environment for people who want to program images, animation, and sound. It is used by students, artists, designers, architects, researchers, and hobbyists for learning, prototyping, and production. It is created to teach fundamentals of computer programming within a visual context and to serve as a software sketchbook and professional production tool. Processing is developed by artists and designers as an alternative to proprietary software tools in the same domain. There is a good tutorial on its use for people familiar with Macromedia products such as Flash/Director here: http://jtnimoy.com/itp/p5/workshop/4 Seja livre, []'s Ian -- >>> return [type for type in types if type not in types_to_exclude] If you can see the beauty in this, then Python got you http://ianlawrence.info -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html