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I use an nvidia card in my pc. All distros I have ever installed use the NV driver by default to provide basicfunctionality as you rightly point ut. However I do like 3d games & screensavers & a bit of eyecandy. To use this I have had to instal the nvidia glx driver. Not ideal. To your mind if I say I didn't have a choice do you say 'of course you do' 1 stick with the the the nv driver and don't run any 3d apps or 2 change my graphic card and use a free open source alternative. My pc is purchased under the hci iniciative. It came with the nvidia card. Until I make the final payment I don't wholly own it. I am allowed to change the card but if the pc goes wrong and an engineer comes out I'm not covered under the warranty/lease arrangement. When I had my own pc hand built Ichanged to an ati card and used the xfree drivers ,putting up with crashes and even using an older more stable distro with better 3d support until the problem was resolved. In 9 months I can do whatever I like hardware wise to the pc. Until then I want to be ble to play tuxracer,chromium,etc. I want to destroy other linux users in multiplayer combat. Nvidia give me a solution and at the moment open source doesn't. It's not practical just to say don't use non free to get them to make a free alternative. For years there were open source projects to write open sorce 3d drivers for aticards orvoodoo without the help of ati voodoo themselves but I don't know any projects into developing 3d drivrs for nvidia. I know the nvidia don't release the source code but 3d dri & opengl drivers were developed for ati cards ithout the source from ati anyway. Until an open source 3d driver is available; like ben; I shall use nvidias. Ray Sent using Palm T3 & SPV C550 Neil Williams <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: __________ > >There is free software support for nvidia cards: >http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/xserver-xorg-video-nv >This driver for the X.Org X server (see xserver-xorg for a further >description) provides support for NVIDIA Riva, TNT, GeForce, and Quadro >cards. > >This (or a close equivalent free software package) is the default >driver chosen on installation on a system using an nvidia card or >chipset. > >-- > > >Neil Williams >============= >http://www.data-freedom.org/ >http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ >http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ > > -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html