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Hi Simon, I'm sure Alex, and Neil will sort this off list. One very handy gadgets is the Thunderbird Extension (I noticed you are using the bird) "Display mailing list header" which exposes the headers we (and other good mailing lists) insert into this mailing list so people know where to turn for help with these issues, how to unsubscribe etc. So useful it really ought to be packaged by default. It beats "View Source" anyway. https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/576/ Simon -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html