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Tom Brough wrote: > > Google is the obvious one, but Im stuck for no.2 & no.3 (writers block I > guess or lazy research). Attributable Sources (URL's) for this > information would be useful too. If it is to prove free software is everywhere, "Linux" is only a small part of the free software around, but since we are DCGLUG I emphasised it a bit. Apache (free software but not GPL compatible) is the obvious one for me. Runs most of the worlds websites still I believe. Alas the NCSA httpd and mosaic were never truely free software, so we can't claim the world wide web, but I can make a reasonable case the the Internet if you force me to ;) BIND/sendmail -- for all their sins made what we know as the Internet work. Heck I still use BIND9 but it is a complete rewrite. Paul Vixie put the bugs in both of sendmail and BIND, call it being in the right place at the right time ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Vixie All ancient history of course.... except.... >for a in a b c d e f g h i j k l m > do > dig +short $a.root-servers.net version.bind chaos txt > done 198.41.0.4 "9.3.2" 192.228.79.201 "9.3.2" 192.33.4.12 "9.3.2" 128.8.10.90 "9.3.2" 192.203.230.10 "9.3.2" 192.5.5.241 "9.3.2" 192.112.36.4 "9.3.2" 128.63.2.53 "9.3.2" 192.36.148.17 "9.3.2" 192.58.128.30 "9.3.2" 193.0.14.129 "9.3.2" 198.32.64.12 "9.3.2" 202.12.27.33 "9.3.2" Okay every time a name like "www.microsoft.com" is entered into a web browser, free software has a hand in the magic that happens to make it work. Everytime an email is sent, an instant message transferred, anytime they use the Internet or the web (unless they do it by IP address, and don't visit sites powered by Apache), or evil proprietary software like Skype, free software is making at least a part of it work. GCC and the tool chain underlies a whole host of non-Microsoft operating systems. Think MACOSX (and BSD). Vast chunks of the UNIX world uses GCC to produce proprietary operating systems that run things like telephone exchanges, and cash registers. Of course you rarely get to know what compiler was used, it is just there quietly reducing the price of software and hardware that people use, and making it more reliable. Embedded Linux Mobile phones http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT9423084269.html Tivos Firewalls (lots). Routers and Switches (lots). Others - many -- http://www.linuxdevices.com/ Microsoft Yes Microsoft still ship BSD code in their OSes. The IP stack is no longer from BSD, but some of the utilities for networking are. They also ship various Unix integration tools including LGPL, GPL and other code. Windows 2003 incorporates new core code under BSD licences. Utilities and Software Development Kit (SDK) for Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications Windows Services for Unix 3.5 Even Microsoft documents on Open Source note that software that is freely shared, and open source is part of the software ecosystem. - The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe. FAQ: www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html