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Rob wrote: Is there any reason you're installing grub & lilo on the boot sector of hdb? Usually they are installed on hda or sda. Simply because I don't want to overwrite the existing mbr. I already have a boot manager installed on another partition which resides on fat98. (xosloader). This calls xp for the rest of my familly who refuse to get to grips with gnu/linux, win98 for some obscure software I still use occasionally and then whatever linuxversion I am using Ray -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe. FAQ: www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html