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Just thought this may be of use on the ssh front. http://www.unixreview.com/documents/s=9846/ur0508g/ur0508g.html It is a tool called DenyHosts, which monitors failed logins and after a set amount it blocks the IP and adds it to the /etc/hosts.deny list :) Very handy for stopping these mindless ssh crackers :) Mark -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe. FAQ: www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html