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Personally, I don't find GNU/Linux all that easy to use. GNOME 2.8 is getting better, but it's not as easy as it could be.. look at Mac OS X - that's an example of easy to use, because you never have to worry about terminals or kernels or any of that. I've never patched a kernel, and I don't think I really should want to do that. What a GNU/Linux desktop machine needs, in my opinion:- * A decent browser and only one browser. Firefox is this. * A decent email client, doesn't need too many features. I've not seen this. Apple OS X Mail is this. * A media player that just works. Works in the browser as a plugin too - plays media from Windows Media, Real, QuickTime, plus the free formats (Theora, etc). Think QuickTime. * A music jukebox that rips, organises and plays a variety of common music formats. Think iTunes. * Debian on crack packaging - use deb to deliver updates in a way that's simple. I don't care if perl 4.4.232.32.23.3.23.23.32.131.3.5343.43 is out. I just want it wrapped in with a bunch of other updates nicely packaged as 'Software Update for 10th Dec 04' * Plug and play for things like USB keys, Firewire drives, iPods, Flash memory cards * Fast User Switching - XP and OS X have this. It's cool. * Photo organisation - I should be able to plug in my camera, have my photos sucked onto my computer and filed into nicely organised albums. matt -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.