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We are getting ADSL set up on a distant phone line, and it now should be enabled. But as yet no joy. A traceroute shows bouncing from one machine to another and back again over and over... That doesn't seem right, but perhaps it is - there is at this moment only the router attached to the far end, no computer. I'm unsure how to interpret this. akm@xxxxx:~$ traceroute 82.152.124.177 traceroute to 82.152.124.177 (82.152.124.177), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 10.0.0.254 (10.0.0.254) 14.657 ms 0.385 ms 0.333 ms 2 lo1-bba1.th.eclipse.net.uk (212.104.130.141) 16.944 ms 13.979 ms 12.513 ms 3 ge1-2-core3.th.eclipse.net.uk (81.5.191.37) 18.862 ms 28.158 ms 25.039 ms 4 ge11-0-bba1.th.eclipse.net.uk (81.5.191.38) 16.738 ms 13.375 ms 13.240 ms 5 ge1-2-core3.th.eclipse.net.uk (81.5.191.37) 13.726 ms 16.455 ms 15.085 ms 6 ge11-0-bba1.th.eclipse.net.uk (81.5.191.38) 14.580 ms 14.343 ms 13.252 ms 7 ge1-2-core3.th.eclipse.net.uk (81.5.191.37) 17.814 ms 15.371 ms 15.002 ms 8 ge11-0-bba1.th.eclipse.net.uk (81.5.191.38) 15.698 ms 15.305 ms 13.236 ms 9 ge1-2-core3.th.eclipse.net.uk (81.5.191.37) 15.679 ms 16.593 ms 13.971 ms 10 ge11-0-bba1.th.eclipse.net.uk (81.5.191.38) 17.175 ms 13.846 ms 13.013 ms 11 ge1-2-core3.th.eclipse.net.uk (81.5.191.37) 13.454 ms 15.032 ms 15.437 ms 12 ge11-0-bba1.th.eclipse.net.uk (81.5.191.38) 14.230 ms 14.159 ms 14.696 ms 13 ge1-2-core3.th.eclipse.net.uk (81.5.191.37) 14.464 ms 17.746 ms 18.827 ms 14 ge11-0-bba1.th.eclipse.net.uk (81.5.191.38) 14.430 ms 14.201 ms 13.458 ms 15 ge1-2-core3.th.eclipse.net.uk (81.5.191.37) 14.445 ms 14.298 ms 14.691 ms 16 ge11-0-bba1.th.eclipse.net.uk (81.5.191.38) 15.436 ms 15.066 ms 13.970 ms -- Adrian Midgley Open Source software is better GP, Exeter http://www.defoam.net/ -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.