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Surely by having home users, you can guarentee a user base with the skills industry needs, as bit like with windows used both in home and industryy and commercial, so industry knows a windows user base is there. (which is what we all are competing against) Of course by going commercial they risk losing potential users, esp if say like me I use suse at home if I am in a position to move a company over to linux I may go with suse, but my job would be to go to the best option or perhaps one I can use I am more likley to use someone I have already developed a relationship with even if it is as a home user. . It's an alternative to windows, at the end of the day Linux is still linux etc. Likewise KDE is going to be similar on any system, so actual vendor should not make a difference. The important thing to make the industry realise is that for the most part if someone for example can use debian they should have no problems using redhat or suse, from an everyday point of view, get over that hurdle and it will solve many of the problems we could face, the skills are transferable. Paul --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.535 / Virus Database: 330 - Release Date: 01/11/03 -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.