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Anyone master all that Jabber stuff yet? Thought I'd brave some if it as Kicq is painful to use.... I've started with the PERL client Jarl - hmm... I also started with the server charente.de which might have been a mistake - est is alles im Deutsch - vorsprung durch Instant Messaging and all that. So far I have sent messages to Kicq, but replies don't work. Simon W (old ICQ) 15753212 Simon W (new ICQ) - trying to use from Jabber 116952768 So I can message 15753212 (When I appear both online and offline as 116952768) but I can't reply. The online/offline stuff seems to work well enough, just messages. And Nick the fake Norweigan is "Not Available" and his was the first IM details I had to hand. Although it kindly tells me he his client think it is running on a 2.4.7 Kernel in his abscence - eeek what sort of information am I leaking with this software I wonder.... Anyway IM users here message me, and explain what I'm doing wrong. Where do I find Jabber conference group names, or is this another Jarl failing? What JID do I use for a IRC chat "????@irc.charente.de" ? Jabber: gnufan@xxxxxxxxxxx -- "Don't get me started on intuitive. You know what's intuitive? Fear of heights. Everything else we call intuitive, such as walking or using a pencil took years of practice." - Don Norman -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.