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and FreeMed (http://freemed.ourexchange.net/), which is implemented with PHP and mySQL. FreeMed is available under the LGPL and offers downloadable source code plus online demo at http://freemed.ourexchange.net/pages.php?page=demo These are contrasting examples of major applications, which are the next target of Free Software development IMHO. We have the OS, the tools, the infrastructure applications (BIND, APache, PostGreSQL etc) now we are moving into office stuff, present but needing polishing and support building up around it, and into vertical and horizontal extension into business areas. -- From one of the Linux desktops of Dr Adrian Midgley http://www.defoam.net/ -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.