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This is not exactly 100% Linux but what I would like to propose to torbay council does involve using Linux in some capacity, or at least free software. There was an article in my local paper yesterday about Torbay council not having enough money for libraries. Mainly to buy books, this got me thinking about their computer provision, this is mainly computers with this DS safety net thing on, for the internet (I think this is somesort of front end to IE but I am not sure). The computers can also be used to check what books are in, where they are and reserve books etc. II am not exactly sure where their software ends, and safety net starts, I think it's just for the web and looking up information which is stored as html pages. I was thinking that as Exeter library provide desktop pc's running office Torbay council to do the same but running Windows / star office or Linux / star office. The latter is a better solution partly because it's free, but it's easier to lock down the desktop, and prevent users changing things, around, this can be done with windows but at extra expense, Star office should be free for Libraries, as this can be classed as education use, regardless it's still cheaper than office professional. One of the problems I have faced with this type of suggestion is that it's technical and too technical for most of the people who make these kind of decisions, I am not sure how far this would go to save £210, 000 (the figure quoted in the paper) but I guess it would be a big help. What sort of services do other libraries provide, for customers. Thanks, I am not sure if this will achieve anything but it's worth a try Paul -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.