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I have now fixed this, as I booted into runlevel 3 where kudzu is still active when booting, it found my new mouse and allowed me to update my configuration, I then ran setup and did the same for my xwindow setup, for some reason under runlevel 3 Xstarts then crashes, however I just typed init 5 and under that it works, fine, I may have broken something under level 3, but as it works then that's not a problem, Now that suse 7.3 is out I am looking to get that, the professional edition as the exta cost give me a dvd and 7 cd's so it's worth it, www.suse.co.uk/uk/products/suse_linux/i386/prices.html Suse 7.3 personal - £35 - 3 cd's 3 manuals, and support Suse 7.3 Professional £59 - 7cd's 1 dvd, 5 manuals and support Suse 7.3 update professional £35 7 cdroms and 1 dvd 60 days of install support. The above come with Star office and loads of software for setting up firewalls, proxy servers etc. Just to compare to the competition Jungle.com prices Personal ed Windows XP full £175.99 Upgrade 74 87.00 XP Professional ed Full £254.99 Update £167.99 No comment regarding this them, out of interest 1. Has anyone any experience with the epson stylus color 580 printer. or a similar model, according to the hardware how to the 500 and 600 are supported but nothing in between, so I am not sure if it's supported, it should work though. The printer is USB only so again I am not sure how well it will work under linux. Will look into this further. Paul -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.