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Re: [LUG] DIY :Re: OT: NSA: Do they or don't they?

 

On Sat, 7 Sep 2013, bad apple wrote:
This NSA business is the gift that just keeps on giving... there is no
bottom to this rabbit hole apparently.

http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@xxxxxxxxxxxx/msg12325.html

From John Gilmore no less. Ouch.
The cryptography mailing list has been a great resource for understandin 
the technical details and implications of recent revelations regarding the 
NSA.
In this particular case, I would like to hear the comments of other 
participants in those discussions.
I've followed a few IETF working groups (mostly as a lurker, and none 
were about actual crypto standards) and they tend to get pretty political. 
I've learned to take comments from participants, no matter how well 
respected they are, with a pinch of salt, unless backed up by others.
More generally, there has been a tendency to believe anything people who 
are "against the NSA" say, and to disbelieve everything the NSA says. Much 
as I understand that sentiment, I'm not sure if it's helpful.
The recent events should be a good lesson to scrutinize standards and 
implementations. But just because the NSA co-wrote or endorsed something, 
it doesn't mean it's weak. And likewise, just because the NSA says 
something is weak, it doesn't mean that it's something they can't break.
Martijn.

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