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The Berkeley mailer would let you reply to several posts but mutt doesn't. Oh, well... [BA] Big kernel and other subsystem changes between Squeeze and Wheezy: of course, that doesn't do much towards explaining exactly *why* you had that problem and as it now works for you anyway, we're obviously not going to get to the bottom of it either. It works in Mint only but I don't want to leave Debian for Mint. I should have said that Mint comes in two flavours (if mint can do that) and the one I used is the Ubuntu one. <snip> PS: what sound hardware have you got on your rig anyway, out of curiousity? Surely it's just a bog standard Realtek integrated job? They normally (i.e., always) work straight out of the box. There are two: 00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2) 01:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10) Ah, I see; this is 'legacy' stuff innit? [Simon] The normal reason for no sound in Debian is the volume is zero. ... make sure the appropriate device is selected I did check that. When I said that with Mint I didn't have to do anything I did of course set the volume level. Selection though, hm. I just tried again with Wheezy and I found that what you have to do (in KDE) is K -> System settings -> multimedia -> phonon -> audio playback device -> select the CMI8738 -> apply and then sound works. I could have found this out before but how come Mint knows what to do without my having to tell it? Works? Well I can play a .wav file but Youtube is still silent so there is more to do. When I have got it working I may leave Squeeze for Wheezy. [BA] PulseAudio seems to have infected every major distro by now That's why I have two 'cards' I suppose. Thanks for the interesting discussion Tony -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq