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Re: [LUG] Ark project - test equipment and tools needed

 
On 18/10/12 11:20, paul sutton wrote:

On 18/10/12 11:06, Rob Beard wrote:

On 18/10/12 10:56, paul sutton wrote:

On 18/10/12 09:28, Rob Beard wrote:

On 17/10/12 23:10, trevor@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:

I have a punch down tool that you can use, an "auto stripping" tool
and a plug
crimp tool. We still have the Cat 5 boxes and cable left over from
the Kinnerton
Way project too.

And I bought some small screwdrivers for "Messy Church" so those can
be used too
as long any work does not clash.

What is the plan for buying consumables like cable and sockets etc?

Trevor




As far as I'm aware the builders are dealing with installing CAT5
sockets etc, all we need to do is put the computers and server etc in.

Rob



Just a thought as for cable perhaps for making up short lengths the
enginners could leave us any off cuts or left over cable,   we can get
ends easy enough it would be a great opportunity to teach people how to
make up cables, etc



Might be an option.


Before someone shouts out I know how,   there are several younger
members (not that I am impying they don't know how to do this) and
myself and maybe one or two others who may want some practice,



I know how to do it but I'm not very good at it :-P


end of the day any opportunity to teach / learn should be taken.  I am
sure that given the shortage of IT techie people in this country they
would be happy to help as that builds up skills for the future.


Yeah.  I was reading an article about Redhat certification last night,
I was thinking that might be an interesting thing to do as a group.
Okay maybe not Redhat specific certficiation but maybe something based
on LPIC?

I know a fair few people on the list will probably know what the LPIC
covers but I figure actually being able to do the exam and getting the
certification might be a good option for some folks.



That would be really helpful,   and getting an exam centre in the area
would be a major bonus,  there is a real need for people with various
certifications, however employers here won't pay the price as in
salaries to match,  but yeah that aside ,  if any teaching can be done
to fit in with the LPI
stuff that would be good.
I think there is an exam centre somewhere in Exeter, not sure where though. As for salaries, I've seen some jobs going that with the right skills and qualifications you can get a pretty good salary. Think experience is also a big factor though. 


If anything skills = social mobility

As far as I am aware LPI requires you to do stuff in the REAL WORLD
rather than simply simulated or reading then exams. The OU do a Linux
course which allows you to take  Linux +  at the end. So something like
that where people on the same course can get together and help / talk to
each other would be excellent, then the ability to go and take Linux+
exam at the end would be good too.
I wouldn't know about the real world stuff, according to the Linux Format article I was reading the other day the Red Hat exams are based on actual tasks rather than multiple choice questions like the Microsoft exams. 

I've been having a snoop at the LPI site and found this:

http://www.lpi.org/exam-preparation/self-study
It looks like the LPIC-1 and LPIC-2 exam resources are out of date and in the process of being updated at the moment. I gather the LPIC-3 stuff is up to date.
There is also now a new Linux Essentials exam which looks like an interesting course for beginners and the exam which is around 50 to 65 euros comes with a PDF certificate of achievement valid for 10 years.
The press release about it is here: http://www.lpi.org/news/lpi-announces-linux-essentials-program 


The possibilities are endless.  And things could attract extra funding
for equipment,  too many places simply offering Windows based courses,
even though the course Raymond mentioned in Totnes on free software is a
step in the right direction.
I agree, the great thing about the free software courses is that the software is generally multi platform, so they don't have to be pushing Linux as such, put they can provide the software for whatever computer the trainee has, or maybe provide a USB stick with a live distro with the software they need. 



Being this is happening in Totnes, which is good at "alternative" ways
of thinking ( I mean that in a positive sense) I think the people there
are both used to that and Open minded enough to accept it,  so Totnes is
the way to go I think.

Of course Totnes has close links with Charles Babbage so it seems rather
apt totnes could take the lead.



I believe Teignmouth does too.


We have a few people on the list with LPI too,  so again the expertise
here could be useful.



Yup quite possibly :-)

Rob


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