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Hearing Robert Shifreen on the radio this morning, talking about botnets, stirred some memories. 1986, it was, the story about Shifreen and Gold and the Duke's Prestel mailbox. He had a try at breaking the password and began with '1234' which turned out to be right. Did Prestel apologise for their choice of password? No. Tony -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq