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On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 09:22 +0000, Rob Beard wrote: > I must admit I never had any issues with Telewest and a > friend of mine who is currently on Virgin hasn't had any issues, but > that isn't to say things don't go wrong from time to time (but the same > could be said for any ISP in fairness). Interesting. As a Demon user I have had very rare problems - all sorted by rebooting my router. Am I paying over the odds - back to BT for phone and Demon for broadband at £25pm plus BT? A nominal max of 3.6Mb/s at the end of almost 3 miles of wire - usually up to 240MB/s download of big files/updates. I do use the free home pages and the EXCELLENT service - instant every time by phone - slow by email. Optical cable seems out of the question given the way priorities are set (cities first - rural perhaps never - I do have a wonderful view!) James -- james kilty http://www.kilty.demon.co.uk -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html