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Apologies if this mail doesn't look right but I'm using my sky web mail from firefox on the aspire one with the default linpus desktop and I refuse to set of the supplied email client again. Awful. Interesting posts about debian. Very similar to my experience with ubuntu over the last week since I got mine last tuesday. Linpus initially lasted about 4 hours after yum couldn't install pidgin or amsn and I though rather than spen ages enabling an advance desktop mode and tinkering with adding custom yum repos and sorting out breakages I might as well do all that with a "proper" distro. Tried fedora first as I already had it on usb and it seemed fine but I'm used to deb packages and apt-get etc so used my intrepid cd on the other laptop to make a usb boot. again fine but no wifi and from my earlier post about alternative distros I downloaded linux4one as this has now reached release 1. This is a customised ubuntu distro based on hardy but with the latest kernel and netbook remix. slimmed down somewhat but wifi working on reboot, wifi led working, internal mic sorted out and screen fonts sorted. No editing of scripts needed. All looked peachy and really if all I wanted from this was a basic desktop I would have stuck at that. Unfortunately I like to mess around and decided to try virtualbox. No supported kernel options. vmware complained of no kernel source despite it being installed, build essential installed and path pointing to correct places. My happauge usb stick wasn't recognised even when the formware was placed in the correct directory so I thought I'd try full blown intrepid. Intrepid is great. The fonts was sorted by one line added in xorg. wifi is sorted by latest madwifi drivers and is incredibly stable. No lockups or disconnects. A quick compile of the lates alsa module sorted out the volume and mic problems some users seem to get in the forums. Last night I decided that it would be handy to have a fast boot just to check the internet and read ebooks and have a full blown desktop so I have set up linpus on an 8 gig partition and the rest to ubuntu. Now I know what I'm doing I just need to spend an hour or two setting it back up. with a stopwatch linpus boots up in 22 seconds and on the net in another 10. Disabling the startup sound in ubuntu and modules like bluetooth and tracker etc. which I don't use I get to a useable desktop in 61 seconds. In the last few days I have discovered I can not just browse the web and check email but watch freeview TV, catch up with iplayer in wetherspoons over breakfast. Watch Tv shows and movies ripped from DVD without dropping frames. Access all my network files. Have my entire music and video library on tap. Play openarena, chromium,pingus and tuxracer and other 3D games better than I imagined possible with this device. And the best discovery I made being a retro addict was that mupen64 played my N64 games brilliantly ! It's been a great week and I've barely touched the 'big' laptop. This is now my device of choice. Ray -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html