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All this talk of Debian Lenny upgrades spurred me into looking for the ISOs. I went to the Debian site and it still only lists 4.0. I thought Lenny was Debian 5, and I was under the impression that it's already been released. Am I missing something? Ta, Rob Hi Rob Debian has Lenny under testing at the moment, you can download it by selecting the Debian Testing ISO Charlie -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html