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Hi Tom, thanks for you response :) On Fri, 2007-08-24 at 09:50 +0100, Tom Potts wrote: > On Thursday 23 August 2007 19:36, Ralph Smithen wrote: > > > Why did WTC7 collapse? > Theres a saying - never attribute to malice that that can be attributed to > stupidity. Sin comentario. > The stupidity there was simply cheap and nasty underengineering - the > insulation was pathetic and so failed. Did you watch the PBS video clip where Silverstein admits that "they made that decision to pull, and then we watched the building collapse"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awcqSy_UsXs Please note that this is an admission of controlled demolition. The 911 Commission (whose Executive Director was Zelikow) report makes *no mention* of the collapse of 7 WTC. http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/index.htm Also, one should notice that it is extremely unlikely that a collapse due to evidently asymmetrically distributed small fires should cause the building to fall neatly into its footprint. Here's a clip from the BBC of the Windsor building (a 32 story steel-framed building in Madrid) conspicuously failing to collapse after being utterly devastated by fire in February 2005. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th2bnG_7UyY http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4261315.stm The BBC article is headed by "Madrid skyscraper faces collapse", yet in the body it reveals that the fire is out (2 hours before the article was published). Hmmm. > The conspiracy here would be the conspiracy of silence not to blame the > inadequate design. > If you want a decent conspiracy theory - with the evidence to back it up you > should have watched Pilgers 'The war on democracy' on ITV last week > which gives a fantastic parallel for the Free/Proprietary software war. Sadly, I don't have a TV, but I've read some good stuff by that guy. My landlady watched it and said it was interesting. I was amused to see that her copy of "TV Choice" described the programme by saying something like "John Pilger argues that America..." Since their many interventions in Latin America are a matter of public record that should have been, "John Pilger relates how..." or some such. As Grandad said in the film "The Lost Boys": "Read the TV guide, you don't need a TV!" ;) What's really instructive is to examine how the media covered the events at the time, as Noam Chomsky does in his book "Manufacturing Consent". > Tom te tom te tom Ralph fa la la la -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html