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Looks like M$ have launched a scheme where old computers are redistributed. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/17/microsoft_mar_pc_recycling/ As I mention on the comments on the article, thats all well and good but what happens when the software support ends (in 2008 for XP) as I bet these machines won't run Vista whatsoever. Rob -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html