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Re: [LUG] MSO, OOo and the executable metaphor

 

Ben Goodger wrote:
> On 09/07/06, *Tom Potts* <tompotts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:tompotts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     Adrian Midgley wrote:
>     > Ben Goodger wrote:
>     >
>     >> Guhh? OOo is a replacement for MSO.
>     >>
>     >>
>     > Microsoft do office software as well?
>     >
>     > Is it in Debian Stable yet?
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     OOo is a wonderful bark up the wrong tree, in the wrong forest!
>     Replacing MSoffice with another office just reinforces the idea that
>     MSOffice is useful. It may be useful to FLOSS in making people aware of
>     open source software but it doesn't actually solve any of the real
>     problems associated with it.
>     If 1/100 the effort spent on OOo had been spent on making a web based
>     office - see http://www.fckeditor.net/
>     for your document editor, a whole host of web based spreadsheets,
>     <panel> for graphics editing and  few tools for doing project planning
>     and html/svga.  Email front ends....
>     Imagine all that working through your browser with data stored on the
>     web server (farm)?
>     >From a company/organisation point of view: No updating every PC in
>     your organisation, no need to worry about laptops going missing. Being
>     in full control of your companies data without having to manage
>     thousands of PC's and servers.
>     For at least 15 years microsoft have managed to sell Office to people,
>     and operating systems to run office, and servers to help manage all of
>     the above when all you needed was a web connection and/or web server , a
>     db and a browser.
>     Google have at last cottoned on to part of this with their online
>     spreadsheet
>     <
>     
> https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=wise&passive=true&nui=1&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fspreadsheets.google.com%2Fccc%3Fnew
>     
> <https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=wise&passive=true&nui=1&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fspreadsheets.google.com%2Fccc%3Fnew>>
>     but for the last fifteen years or so most people have been following
>     the
>     pied piper, and paying him handsomely!
>     Tom te tom te tom.
> 
> 
> This is precisely what will destroy Office 12 - people will think "ugh,
> new" and switch to OOo rather than lose their current convolution.
> Web-based systems may be superior, but "office 97, office 2000, office
> xp, office 2003" is far more likely to lead to "office 2007" than "new
> web-based thingy, not approved by our Imperial masters".
> 
> Google Spreadsheets runs like a pig for me, I have never been able to
> work out why (of course, it runs fine in Windows.)

I think that the killer app for Office in the corporate environment will
be Windows Workflow Foundation.

As for Web-based office automation ? OK for amateurs. How anyone who a)
values their data and b)is interested in user experience can think that
running complex code on shared remote processors is sensible when they
could run it on an unshared local one is, frankly, beyond me.

jd

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