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Re: [LUG] really complex installation of suse 9.3

 

On Tuesday 19 July 2005 9:54 pm, Tom Arrow wrote:
> It all started when I was 
> making spare partitions in mandriva so I could build my own distro.

I've had a similar install - 12 distros on one machine. What we need to allow 
constructive help is a list of machines, the partitions, sizes, what is on 
them now and what is meant to go on them eventually.

> It gave 
> me errors that said I needed to insert my rescue disk and reinstall my boot
> loader.

You need to make the /boot contents of each distro available to the boot 
loader (which can only see the bootable partition) and an easy way to do this 
is to copy them to the same partition under specific names:
/boot/ - the original one for this partition.
/boot/mandriva/ /boot/suse/ /boot/optional/
etc.

Then specify the location in the bootloader config for each available boot.

> (my router was destroyed so I had no 
> Internet for a while)

Presuming that's fixed now .. :-)

> a 32bit and tried and failed to put it on DVD. In the 
> end I gave him my server's hard disk and he extracted suse onto that.
> if i pug my servers hard disk into my desktop i should be able to use a
> boot CD to install it from the source on the hard disk.

It can be easier to leave the HD in another machine and run the install as a 
network install.

> I ended up with the 
> problem that I selected the source directory then it just jumped back a few
> steps. and wouldn't go any further. I spoke again to James who said it
> could be a problem with the type of partitions on my FC3 server

?? James ?? Why, what and how? I mean this is FC3, not M$, so it should have 
been ext2/3 or reiserFS - I don't see how that makes any odds.

> so i copied 
> the source onto my desktop hard disk home partition (I was going to save
> that any way along with my windoze partition).

So you now have a copy of the CD on the hard disc - problem there is that you 
can't easily access that during an install. Where is the install to go?

> Now when try to install I 
> get to select the source Dir it works i get into yast. Now I get an error
> that parted cannot work with hda

hda is the first hard drive, which is in use by the install because that's 
where it is trying to read it's files. Normally that would be removable media 
(CD/DVD) or a network location which is why it doesn't expect to find itself 
already on the install location.

> i found this when using a live disk 
> re-partitioning my HD (my desktop HD) and it warns me that I may continue
> but to be careful.

IMHO, it's easier to have the installer on separate media to the installation.

> I do all the packages and other config then click 
> continue. I get told that I may continue but it will in effect wipe my
> entire hard disk.

You need to precise here - 'in effect' isn't good enough. What's the exact 
message?

> I need to keep some files on this box.

Which partition(s)? Which FS?

> From what I see i  
> need to take my web site off my server and put it my desktop.

I don't see a need for that. What is the server running now?

> Install suse 
> (as i can't install from FC3)

FC3 can be the host for a network install as easily as anything else - even 
Windows could do it with a little persuasion.
:-)

All it requires is that a machine somewhere within the range of your network 
can serve files from it's hard drive to another machine over HTTP or FTP. So 
with Apache or an ftp server installed, it should be the simplest method. Use 
a symlink or setup a virtual host that points to the location of the copied 
installation files. As soon as you can view the files through a web browser, 
you can install them across the network by using that URL in the installer.

> onto my server move back the website, the 
> contents of my home directory and the sources.

That depends on what is where currently, but it sounds OK-ish.

Better would be to simply forget about the copied SuSE files on the desktop 
machine and install via a network location.

> Then install suse onto my 
> desktop.

I'm confused. Which partition is which? Two machines or three?

> Then move back my home dir. then install xen on my desktop now 
> install win XP (I need it for work) under xen.

Have you done that before? As long as xen controls the Windows urge to 
re-write the MBR it'll be OK. Usually, Windows goes on first because the M$ 
installer is brain dead.

> Then problem solved. It 
> seems rather long winded any ideas on how to shorten it etc.

You can shorten it the most by using a different install media and by being 
clear about exactly what each partition is to achieve.

> Please no 
> comments like "you should just use distro x"

:-) Of course, it would be a whole lot easier with Debian.

> I want to stick with something 
> I have used before (I installed it at school).

Freedom and choice - I hated SuSE and it hated my hardware so that was that.


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