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I have 3 router/modems. The Creative model has no firewall and works perfectly with Debian/Libranet/SuSE et al, but of course is wide open to the big bad world, even with a distro firewall behind it according to pcflank.com; who seem to run the best firewall tests that I can find. I tried installing my IPCop box behind it, but have had no luck so far using an etho connection. I get the indications that I'm connected but nothing happens. Will sort that later - perhaps. I like this model as it seems faster/more livelier than the others My laptop is connected using a D-Link 504T router which will only work if I disable the distro firewall on whatever I'm using (back to using SuSE 9.2 Pro at the moment). But on SuSe I cannot use the Yast Online Update as no mirrors appear and if I feed in an URL it freezes/does nothing. Mail and browsing work perfectly on all distros. With Libranet* apt works fine until I do a dist-upgrade. It then fails to connect to any listed mirrors, even after an apt-setup - *similarly with Knoppix and Ubuntu. On my main Boxes (ad hoc network via a 4 port switch) etho'd into a Netgear router/modem/firewall I have exactly the same problem as with the D-Link. I must be doing something wrong. Any ideas please? David Bell -- Hatherleigh Devon A GNU/Linux user -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.