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Re: [LUG] IRC: Freenode -> Libera

 

On Thu, 17 Jun 2021 00:32:30 +0100
Neil Stone <neil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> It's not often that I will raise my head above the parapet, however
> this is one of those times.
> 
> I feel that Paul has done amazing work for the LUG over several
> decades (organising and running meetings, website maintenance,
> maintaining the IRC presence, etc), and having someone put down what
> he's worked on mostly off his own back, despite there having been a
> number of requests for help and input, is simply not acceptable. I
> can empathise with Paul's feelings about being in a no win situation,
> I've been there and experienced that also.
> 
> That aside, I do think that the site might benefit from a bit of a
> re-theme... I am also not a graphical designer (I am also a
> sysadmin), it does feel like it's wanting some TLC in that
> department... exactly what though, not sure. Personally I like dark
> themes, I've spent too many hours/days/years staring at CRT and
> LCD/TFT screens to appreciate the dazzle of bright websites, though
> they do tend to look rather crisp... I will take a look through the
> Wordpress gallery to see if I can find a few themes I like... if
> other people could also do similar then we may be able to find some
> common ground and get an agreed way to progress this. Wordpress is a
> great tool for content management, I've setup a number of sites on it
> (none particularly difficult) so I'm a little familiar with some of
> its capabilities, yes there are other tools out there... but the
> plugin and theme availability from WP is outstanding. Yes you get the
> odd bit of wp tracker code, most of that is for analytics though
> (visitor stats mostly, similar to that which you get on many other
> sites). I'm not sure why there's an objection to linking to the LUG
> Twitter/LinkedIn pages, but widgets like that can be removed if so
> desired.
> 
> If people would like a discussion forum for a website rejig/refresh
> please join #DCGLUG-Website on Libera and we can have a sensible chat
> about what we want to do. The site is the public face of the LUG, are
> we happy with how it is, or do we feel it's time to change it
> somehow... If you honestly don't mind how it looks, just sit back and
> see what happens, if you do care, join the discussion.
> 
> Does anyone know who the appropriate person(s) is (are) to discuss
> changes such as theme and plugins (Simon?) ?
> 
> Chat soon,
> 
> Neil
> 
> 
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 at 20:03, comrade meowski <mr.meowski@xxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> 
> > On 16/06/2021 18:33, Simon Waters wrote:  
> > > On Wednesday, 16 June 2021 17:37:32 BST Jon Davey via list
> > > wrote:  
> > >>
> > >> Oh I didn't know there was a group on IRC. How do I find
> > >> that ?....  
> > >
> > > Paul updated the website
> > >
> > > https://www.dcglug.org.uk/moving-to-libera-chat-irc-network/  
> >
> >
> > Oh god I made a terrible mistake and out of curiousity I clicked the
> > link and for the first time in many years beheld the DCGLUG website
> > in all it's glory.
> >
> > I'm going to exercise some self-restraint and delete my original
> > questions which were a bit... sarcastic and try and be polite
> > instead.
> >
> > Ummm, is the site supposed to look like that? Has anyone ever
> > looked at the page on a 4K/high-dpi screen before? Those wordpress
> > trackers are supposed to be there right? The prominent links to
> > Twitter and LinkedIn aren't ironic jokes or memes but are actually
> > supposed to be there?
> >
> > I could go on. And on.
> >
> > Just to be clear I don't care what the site looks like: no skin off
> > my nose. I'm also a sysadmin and not a webdesigner so hell no I'm
> > not volunteering to fix it. I imagine it only gets about 3 hits a
> > week anyway and it's not like it's important to me or presumably
> > anybody else in any way.
> >
> > But does it have to be _that_ awful? I'm genuinely embarrassed for
> > it. Even though I'm not a webdesigner if I was unfortunate enough
> > to be responsible for it I'd immediately 503 the service and redo
> > it by hand in vi in 5 minutes. The result wouldn't necessarily be
> > any better but it would certainly be infinitely less bad: it
> > wouldn't render incorrectly, have trackers on it or advertise a
> > Microsoft product on the front page at least. When the bar has been
> > set that low it's difficult to see how much worse it could possibly
> > get...
> >
> > So, anyone got an explanation? Anyone want to defend it?
> >
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I have an art degree and have coded a site using HTML (many moons ago).
But I checked out the site and I thought it was good as it is....

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All the best, as always, Jon Davey

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