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On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 09:21:50 +0000 Neil <barnaby@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hello Neil, >I used to use kubuntu and there is was Konky. Now it is usually spelt >conky. I should have been more careful. If you check that spelling in >Duckduckgo, you will find the information. Thanks. Yes. I have no need for it here. Most recent install was Debian testing (in expert mode) and neither conky or plank were installed. But then, testing isn't aimed at newcomers to Linux, so the "everything including the kitchen sink" approach is inappropriate. I know you had your tongue fairly firmly in your cheek when you started, but it's produced some interesting views. I'm not a fan of changes, so stick with Debian rather than try other distros where, at the very least, I'll need to start using another package manager. I moved away from LILO to grub because I could edit the config files directly. Nice. A scary (to me, at the time) change because one misstep and I could have rendered my system unbootable. At that time, I had no way to SSH in and sort out issues. More to the point, I wouldn't have even know *how* to SSH in. Then, when grub2 came along, it switched to the /exact/ same methodology that I left LILO to avoid. Bugger. The change annoyed me, but I rolled with it because by then, I'd leaned about SSH and knew more about Linux in general, so felt more confident in my ability to sort things out. Furthermore, I'd found several more places online (mailing lists, mostly) I could go to to get assistance if I needed it. Weirdly (perhaps), I was not at all bothered by the change from SysVInit to SystemD. However, that may well be because I don't understand either well enough to form an opinion. Of course, lack of knowledge hasn't stopped people in some quarters being quite vocal about the change. It's something that doesn't apply here, but what I see on many other mailing lists is people complaining wildly about SomeChangeOrOther without any real reason. I notice that those people aren't as clever as they like to think they are; They struggle with the existing system, whilst pretending they're a level 4000 demigod, and a new method/system means they'll be seen for the fool they truly are. Such people end up in my killfile quite quickly. So, now you've had an insight into the workings of my mind. Which is only fair, since you've shown some of the workings of yours. ;-D Happy New Year. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Drums quite good, bass is too loud, and I can't hear the words Sound Of The Suburbs - Members
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