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On 20/12/2020 12:03, Julian Hall wrote: > On 21/11/2020 13:38, Neil wrote: >> On 21/11/2020 13:26, Eion MacDonald wrote: >>> On 21/11/2020 13:08, Neil wrote: >>>> Do modern printer manufacturers expect everyone to have a smart phone? >>> >>> Not if it is for 'commercial Use' >>> >>> Usually only if it is a 'consumer range machine' , But many makers allow >>> set up via downloaded software from their site.s. >>> >>> I always research how to set up before buying a printer . >>> Printers mostly easy, scanners more problems. >>> (PS 'buying' means helping others to setup their machines) >>> >> I see. It did not occur to me that any of this would be needed. I have >> not checked, so maybe HP will let you set it up via a web site. Still, >> I seem to be getting sorted now. >> >> And the HP Smart app does seem very useful. I bought that phone just >> in time. So got it right, makes a change, >> >> Neil >> > I am not a fan of 'the Cloud', in this case cloud printing, for two > reasons; > > 1. What are you supposed to do when your Internet connection is down, be > that internal network issue or ISP? > > 2. I will not upload my documents to a third party for /any/ reason, > certainly not just because 'they want them' which as far as I can see is > the only reason to upload file for printing. > > Julian > Concur with Julian. I want it to work here! With or without internet. [BUT, when no electricity power = no printer and no computer. Often here due to road repairs. PS. All colour printers carry a code to print in miniscule letters a trace number to ID who prints the document (anti-fraud agreement for security printing). So your hard copy if colour has a trace number. -- Regards Eion MacDonald -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG https://mailman.dcglug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq